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Thunder (Japanese: サンダー Thunder) is a basic tome which was introduced in Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon & the Blade of Light and is present in all games in the Fire Emblem series. It is a spell which strikes the foe with a bolt of lightning.
In games which feature the three separate schools of anima magic, it acts as the first "stage" in the hierarchy of thunder magic; it is the thunder counterpart to the Fire and Wind tomes, is the weakest and lowest-level of the thunder tomes, and is surpassed by the more powerful and advanced Elthunder, Arcthunder and Thoron. In games featuring anima magic, black magic or tomes in general only as a generalized weapon level, Thunder typically acts as a low-level spell with no particularly distinct effects.
Thunder behaves somewhat differently in Gaiden and its remake, Echoes: Shadows of Valentia, where it also has greater range than most other spells and can strike targets as far as three spaces away from the user. Shadows of Valentia also has a second version of Thunder which is used only by the amiibo unit Robin, which instead has the usual black magic range.
Stats
In the main Fire Emblem series
Game | Icon | Level | Might | Weight | Hit | Crit | Range | Uses | Worth | WEXP | Other effects and notes |
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Shadow Dragon & the Blade of Light | -- | Tome: 2 | 6 | 1 | 90 | 0 | 1–2 | 21 | 460 | -- | -- |
Gaiden | -- | Black | 4 | 5 | 70 | 0 | 1–3 | -- | −2 HP | -- | -- |
Mystery of the Emblem | Tome: 3 | 6 | 1 | 90 | 5 | 1–2 | 21 | 630 | -- | -- | |
Genealogy of the Holy War | C | 8 | 7 | 90 | -- | 1–2 | 50 | 3,000 | -- | -- | |
Thracia 776 | E | 7 | 5 | 60 | 5 | 1–2 | 30 | 3,200 | 1 | -- | |
The Binding Blade | D | 6 | 2 | 80 | 5 | 1–2 | 25 | 500 | 1 | -- | |
The Blazing Blade | D | 8 | 6 | 80 | 5 | 1–2 | 35 | 700 | 1 | -- | |
The Sacred Stones | D | 8 | 6 | 80 | 5 | 1–2 | 35 | 700 | 1 | -- | |
Path of Radiance | E | 4 | 3 | 85 | 5 | 1–2 | 40 | 600 | 1 | Deals bonus damage to dragon units. | |
Radiant Dawn | E | 3 | 4 | 80 | 5 | 1–2 | 40 | 880 | 1 | Deals bonus damage to dragon units. | |
Shadow Dragon | E | 6 | 2 | 90 | 0 | 1–2 | 21 | 420 | 2 | -- | |
New Mystery of the Emblem | E | 6 | -- | 90 | 0 | 1–2 | 21 | 420 | 2 | -- | |
Awakening | E | 3 | -- | 80 | 5 | 1–2 | 45 | 630 | 2 | -- | |
Fates | D | 5 | -- | 80 | 0 | 1–2 | -- | 1,000 | 1 | -- | |
Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (regular) |
4 | 5 | 70 | 0 | 1–3 | -- | −2 HP | -- | -- | ||
Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (Robin's) |
3 | 0 | 80 | 5 | 1–2 | -- | −0 HP | -- | -- | ||
Three Houses | E | 4 | 4 | 80 | 5 | 1–2 | 8 | -- | 2 | -- | |
Engage | D | 5 | 10 | 80 | 0 | 1–3 | -- | 1,000 | -- | Cannot perform follow-up attacks. |
In other Fire Emblem series titles
Game | Icon | Level | Might | Weight | Hit | Crit | Range | Uses | Worth | WEXP | Other effects and notes |
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Heroes | 1★ | 4 | -- | -- | -- | 2 | -- | 50 SP | -- | -- |
Locations
Shadow Dragon & the Blade of Light
Inventory | Wendell |
Dropped by | Chapter 12, enemy Mage • Chapter 15, enemy Mage |
Vendor | Chapter 8 • Chapter 11 • Chapter 14 • Chapter 15 • Chapter 16 • Chapter 18 • Chapter 20 • Chapter 22 |
Gaiden
Learned at | Innate: Mae • Sonya Level 3: Boey Level 4: Kliff (If promoted to Mage) Level 8: Celica Level 9: Jesse (If promoted to Mage) Level 10: Gray (If promoted to Mage) • Luthier |
Mystery of the Emblem
Inventory | Book 1: Wendell Book 2: Linde |
Dropped by | Book 1: Chapter 10, enemy Mage • Chapter 12, enemy Mage |
Vendor | Book 1: Chapter 7 • Chapter 8 • Chapter 9 • Chapter 11 • Chapter 12 • Chapter 13 • Chapter 16 • Chapter 17 • Chapter 19 Book 2: Chapter 9 • Chapter 15 • Chapter 17 • Chapter 19 • Chapter 21 |
Genealogy of the Holy War
Inventory | First Generation: Tailtiu |
Armory | First Generation: Chapter 2 Second Generation: Chapter 7 * • Chapter 8 * |
Thracia 776
Capture or steal | Chapter 4, enemy Mage (×2) • Chapter 4x, enemy Mage • Chapter 5, enemy Mage (×5) • Chapter 10, enemy Mage • Chapter 11, enemy Mage (×2), enemy Bishop • Chapter 11x, enemy Mage (×4) • Chapter 13, enemy Mage (varies) • Chapter 14, enemy Mage (×14), enemy Bishop • Chapter 16A, enemy Mage (×2) • Chapter 18, enemy Mage (×20, reinforcement) • Chapter 19, enemy Mage Knight (×21, reinforcement) • Chapter 20, enemy Mage (×13, reinforcement) • Chapter 21, enemy Bishop |
Vendor | Chapter 9 • Chapter 10 • Chapter 14 • Chapter 20 • Chapter 21 |
The Binding Blade
Event | Chapter 8, Lilina speaks to Roy |
Vendor | Chapter 7 • Chapter 11A • Chapter 11B • Chapter 13 • Chapter 15 • Chapter 18B • Chapter 19A • Chapter 19B • Chapter 20A • Chapter 21 • Chapter 23 |
The Blazing Blade
Inventory | Eliwood's Tale: Erk Hector's Tale: Erk |
Vendor | Lyn's Tale: Chapter 10 Eliwood's Tale: Chapter 16x • Chapter 17 • Chapter 20 • Chapter 23 (both versions)• Chapter 27 • Chapter 29x Hector's Tale: Chapter 17x • Chapter 18 • Chapter 21 • Chapter 24 (both versions) • Chapter 25 • Chapter 29 • Chapter 31x |
The Sacred Stones
Inventory | Saleh |
Treasure | Tower of Valni Floor 5, southwest chest* |
Vendor (in-chapter) |
Chapter 9A • Chapter 10B • Chapter 12A • Chapter 12B • Chapter 15 • Chapter 17 |
Vendor (World map) |
Port Kiris • Bethroen • Caer Pelyn • Taizel • Jehanna Hall • Narube River • Rausten Court |
Path of Radiance
Inventory | Ilyana |
Armory | Chapter 8* • Chapter 9* • Chapter 10 • Chapter 11* • Chapter 12 • Chapter 13* • Chapter 14* • Chapter 15* • Chapter 17 • Chapter 18* • Chapter 20* • Chapter 21 • Chapter 22* • Chapter 24* • Chapter 25* • Chapter 26 • Chapter 27* • Chapter 28 • Endgame* |
Radiant Dawn
Inventory | Ilyana • Calill • Soren |
Armory | Part 1: Chapter 4 • Chapter 5 • Chapter 6 • Chapter 7 • Chapter 8 • Chapter 9 • Endgame Part 2: Chapter 3 • Endgame Part 3: Chapter 2 • Chapter 3 • Chapter 4 • Chapter 5 • Chapter 7 • Chapter 8 • Chapter 9 • Chapter 10 • Chapter 11 • Endgame Part 4: Prologue • Chapter 1 • Chapter 2 • Chapter 3 • Chapter 4 • Chapter 5 • Endgame |
Shadow Dragon
Inventory | Wendell |
Dropped by | Chapter 12, enemy Mage • Chapter 15, enemy Mage |
Vendor | Chapter 8 • Chapter 11 • Chapter 14 • Chapter 15 • Chapter 16 • Chapter 18 • Chapter 20 • Chapter 22 |
Armory | Online shop* |
New Mystery of the Emblem
Inventory | Main story: Linde • Frost New Archanea Saga Episode II: Frost Downloadable chapter 1: Linde |
Dropped by | Chapter 9, enemy Mage |
Treasure | New Archanea Saga Episode II, chest |
Vendor | Chapter 9 • Chapter 15 • Chapter 17 • Chapter 19 • Chapter 21 |
Armory | Online shop* |
Awakening
Inventory | Robin |
Dropped by | Chapter 4, enemy Mage |
Armory | The Northroad • Arena Ferox • Border Wastes • The Twins' Turf |
Merchant (SpotPass) |
Caeda • Norne • Deirdre • Arthur • Soren |
Fates
Inventory | Conquest: Camilla • Odin • Ophelia Revelation: Odin • Ophelia |
Dropped by | Revelation: Chapter 12, enemy Sorcerer • Chapter 19, enemy Dark Knight |
Lottery Shop | Dusk Lottery: Silver Prize |
Armory | Dusk Armory: All levels (no limit) |
Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
Learned at | Innate: Mae • Sonya • Nomah Level 3: Boey Level 4: Kliff (If promoted to Mage) Level 8: Celica • Any playable male character not otherwise listed who reclasses into the Mage tree Level 9: Jesse (If promoted to Mage) Level 10: Gray (If promoted to Mage) • Luthier Upon promoting to Mage: Conrad |
Three Houses
Skill level | Innate: Dorothea • Jeritza Reason D: Dimitri • Felix • Ferdinand • Gilbert • Hilda • Manuela Reason D+: Anna • Bernadetta • Byleth • Mercedes |
Archanea Saga
Inventory | Frost |
Treasure | Episode I, chest |
Heroes
Other appearances
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U
This article or section is a short summary of Thunder. SmashWiki features a more in-depth article. |
Thunder is Robin's neutral special move in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U. When used, Robin hurls an electric projectile a great distance across the stage, and when charged up for long enough periods of time it will instead launch bolts of the more powerful thunder spells Elthunder, Arcthunder and Thoron. Like all of Robin's tome attacks, using the Thunder special move also sets the tome to be used as part of some of Robin's other non-special moves.
Like all of Robin's weapons, Thunder is governed by an emulation of the Fire Emblem durability system. It begins a match with 20 durability points, which are subtracted from until it runs out, at which point Thunder "breaks" and must be left to recharge for 10 seconds before it can be used again, during which the move will fail if the player attempts to use it. Each progressively higher charge consumes more durability points per use: Thunder takes 1, Elthunder 3, Arcthunder 5, and Thoron 8.
As with all special moves in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U, Thunder has two alternate variations which can be applied to Robin as customization options. These moves are found at random and collected during the course of the game's other modes, such as Classic Mode and Smash Run.
- Thunder+ (Japanese: 強化サンダー Strengthened Thunder) takes longer to charge, requiring 5 seconds of charge time to launch Thoron, but is more powerful. Its durability is also altered: it only has 10 durability points, and the amount of durability consumed by each spell is also altered (1 for Thunder, 2.5 for Elthunder, 4.5 for Arcthunder, and 10 for Thoron).
- Speed Thunder (Japanese: 速読サンダー Speed-Reading Thunder) both charges and travels faster, requiring only 2 seconds of charge time to launch Thoron, but deals less damage and knockback. Its durability parameters are unaltered.
Fire Emblem Cipher
Thunder is present as a skill on three cards in Fire Emblem Cipher, all of which depict Mages: B01-036N Miloah's Child, Linde, B05-026N Determined Magic Youth, Lugh, and B09-026N Energetic Mage Girl, Mae. It is a manual-activation skill which, for a cost of flipping 1 bond card, gives the user a +10 attack increase until the end of the turn.
Flavor text
Game | Text (English) |
Text (Japanese) |
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Thracia 776 | Basic thunder tome*
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雷の魔法
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The Binding Blade | --
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理魔法 ほとばしる雷
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Path of Radiance | Low-level lightning magic. It is simple to master,
but it possesses little destructive power. |
雷の下位魔法
あつかいやすいが 威力は低い |
Radiant Dawn | Low-level lightning magic. It is very effective against
wyverns and dragon tribe laguz. |
威力の低い雷属性の魔法
竜騎士系・竜系に高い効果を誇る |
Shadow Dragon | Magic used to attack with lightning.
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雷で敵を攻撃する魔法
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New Mystery of the Emblem | Magic used to attack with lightning.*
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雷で敵を攻撃する魔法
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Awakening | Standard lightning magic.
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雷で敵を攻撃する魔法
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Fates | A common combat spell.
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標準的な魔法
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Echoes: Shadows of Valentia | Thunder magic that hits
from a long distance. |
雷の魔法
遠距離の相手を攻撃する |
Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (Robin's) |
Magic that attacks foes
with lightning. |
雷で敵を攻撃する魔法
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Three Houses | Basic lightning magic.
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雷の初級魔法
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Three Houses | Basic lightning magic.
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雷の初級魔法
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Engage | A standard tome of thunder magic.
Cannot follow up. |
雷の魔法
追撃不可 |
Trivia
- Robin's version of Thunder in Shadows of Valentia is internally called トロン (Thoron).
Etymology and other languages
Names, etymology, and in other regions | ||
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Language | Name | Definition, etymology, and notes |
English |
Thunder |
-- |
Japanese |
• サンダー |
• Romanized as THUNDER in its internal file names. |
Spanish |
Trueno |
Thunder |
French |
• Tonnerre |
• Thunder. Used in The Blazing Blade. |
French (Canada) |
Foudre |
Thunder; used in the Shadow Dragon & the Blade of Light physical manual. |
German |
Donner |
Thunder |
Italian |
Tuono |
Thunder |
Dutch |
Bliksem |
Lightning |
Portuguese (Brazil) |
Trovão |
Thunder |
Russian |
Гроза |
Thunder; only in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U, as no Fire Emblem game has as yet been officially released in Russian. |
Korean |
선더 |
Thunder |
Simplified Chinese |
雷电 |
Thunder and lightning |
Traditional Chinese |
雷電 |
Thunder and lightning |
Gallery
Artwork of Thunder from the Fire Emblem Trading Card Game.
Thunder in Heroes.
Thunder in Heroes.
Merric casting Thunder in Shadow Dragon & the Blade of Light.
Merric casting Thunder in Mystery of the Emblem.
Tailtiu casting Thunder in Genealogy of the Holy War.
Hugh casting Thunder in The Binding Blade.
Ilyana casting Thunder in Path of Radiance.
Ilyana casting Thunder in Radiant Dawn.
Linde casting Thunder in Shadow Dragon.
Mae casting Thunder in Echoes: Shadows of Valentia.
Dorothea casting Thunder in Three Houses.
Other appearances
Robin using Thunder in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.
References
See also
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